I was watching this for the angles on the conspiracies, and there is a good part of this that has to do with Horus of Egypt, (Jesus Christ).
Matt
Lloyd Braun
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Why do "christians" have such a hard time explaining the bodily reserrect?
by booker-t ini have yet to find a christian that can truly explain the bodily reserrection of christ doctrine.
they become so confused after a few minutes that many of them will try to change the subject on you.
i was talking to a born-again co-worker of mine about this very subject and after 15 minutes of going over scriptures he said "you know booker-t i have never really swallowed the bodily reserrection doctrine but this is what my church teaches.
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and lloyd....my having an alternative view doesnt make me a "conspiracy nut".....that is a programmed reaction....when you hear conspiracy to think...theory or nut....I like to think of me not following what the mainstream news feed us.....everyone...ask yourself...why has there been no alternative view allowed in the media....or if you question...you side with the terrorists
Actually, in my mind having an alternative view from the ACTUAL event's proper explanation does make someone a conspiracy nut. So if you have a view that is ANYTHING other than what ACTUALLY occurred on that day, you are cordially invited to join the rest of the conspiracy nuts, my friend. Please respect my right to label conspiracy nuts as such, for their blatant stupidity and inability to realize and remember what actually occurred in history. I don't need a "mainstream media" to "feed me" anything, for I was present at one of the events, and saw the plane flying in restricted airspace and then very low and then BOOM. Heard it and saw it. It happened. There is no "alternative view" unless you would care to enjoy the priviledge of being labeled a nut. Why has there been no alternative view you ask to ask? Well I do ask that, and so does the media. They did it several times that day when they were not sure what it was that was going on, until a second plane hit, and then they knew for sure that it was hijacked aircraft, and intentional. The wild crazy nuts with their "demolition" and "inside job" theories are just that. Nuts. As far as the last comment, "You side with terrorists", you made that one up yourself. I have never heard anyone make that claim about a conspiracy nut. Toota loo. Matty
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We're All Gonna Die!!
by Lloyd Braun ini began this idea in another thread, but i thought i would continue it here.
a lot of people talk about how god will ultimately punish those who get away with murder and other crimes, in the long run.
but i was thinking:.
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Guys, I think you're missing my point here.
We can use this thinking against WTBS thinking.
When they ask "Wouldn't you want to live forever in paradise?" we can respond with, "No, of course not, because..." ..... "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" (Weeeeeee)
I think if we can get over ourselves, and stop putting ourselves first in our lives, we can put other things first in life, like our families, jobs, and sports cars, then we know what life is all about....
Actually, life is all about putting things in holes. That is what I have found out for the most part.
Lloyd Braun
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We're All Gonna Die!!
by Lloyd Braun ini began this idea in another thread, but i thought i would continue it here.
a lot of people talk about how god will ultimately punish those who get away with murder and other crimes, in the long run.
but i was thinking:.
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Lloyd Braun
I began this idea in another thread, but I thought I would continue it here. A lot of people talk about how God will ultimately punish those who get away with murder and other crimes, in the long run. But I was thinking:
Don't we already all receive the punishment of sweet death? Isn't it beautiful to know that we are all sinners who pay for our sins with our own deaths, and that's it? Isn't it great that God has delivered this punishment (righteous punishment)?
I think the idea that death is an experience that we all are going to have occur is wonderful and loving.
Wouldn't living forever be a punishment in itself rather than reward?
Matt
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Another Wealthy Celebrity Gets off the Hook (Temporarily) Phil Spector
by flipper inhello people.
since i have a justice streak a mile long, after reading about this little weasel getting off in a hung jury today on a murder charge, just had to comment on the lack of justice in our society.
it seems in this country, if you are a star ex-athlete guilty of killing his ex-wife , or a famous singer guilty alledgedly of molesting kids over the years, or in spectors case a record producer with constantly bad hairstyles, it seems as if you can avoid punishment with the right connections or amount of money that buys top attorneys.
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Lloyd Braun
Well, once again, I see an objection to a system that is faulty, but still it is our system and we should support it in America if we are true Americans. The man is innocent until the state proves their case. It's the same with Orenthal Simpson, and with Michael Jackson as well. The burden of proof lies in the prosecutor's hand.
In reality, do any of us actually know the truth about any of this? Were we there? No. The real truth is only known by the person that shot the woman, and the woman herself (who is now dead of course). God knows of course, and if one is a believer in God, one knows that ultimately, God will deliver justice. After all, we all suffer death as a result of sin, right? God gets his justice!
Thankfully, God has established a way for us all to pay for our own sins. Thankfully, we all die.
Isn't that beautiful and natural?
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Lloyd Braun
Leolaia,
The WTC#7 was brought down with thermite charges. It was done after it had already sustained subsequent damage from the fall of the twin towers. It was done at the express permission of the leaseholder, Mr. Silverstein. These are facts that are plainly available at the NYC's county of Manhattan Recorder's office of records. It was not a planned demolition, but one that had to be done as quickly as possible, with little or no blueprints to work from. It was done by all the resources available that afternoon. It took 4 1/2 hours to "pull" that building, for the safety of other buildings.
Please stand corrected on the WTC#7 issue. This building just like many other buildings in Manhattan have underground support beams. No drywall or other building materials in the way. They just tied a wrap on the central columns underneath (about three all together) and blew out the center base of the building. It pancaked on it's own weight, which was going to happen anyway, with time.
You have to have an understanding of how towers in Manhattan are built before you can even remotely compare them to other skyscrapers in other cities. Different regions, climates, codes, buildings, ground, etc, all factor into this.
The entire controlled demolition argument by the conspiracy nuts is ludicrous.
Matt
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I said I am conducting a study. I read lots of things. What I believe in my heart is another matter, and one I usually just keep to myself nowadays. But the study is freely available in most theological Rabbinic institutions. Think about this though, for 200 years this country was blessed and has been a great place. I think the fact that we built our amendments on the 10 commandments has something to do with it. There is a lot more detail on this subject.
Matt
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Lloyd Braun
One of the best documentaries detailing all the precise points of the day is the following entitled
"INSIDE 9/11 - ZERO HOUR."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-B6c6xxXug
There is really no question who did all this, and why. It is about intense hatred for the Western World by those who are either less priviledged, or feel oppressed by us. I happen to be doing a study right now which precludes that the USA is the "Israel of God" that the bible describes, and that we are being punished by God just like Israel was punished by Hitler in the 40's, because we keep abandoning the Torah and fornicating with the Harlot of Babylon. Lots of people think that Hurricane Katrina was directed at New Orleans by God, because of the city's known iniquitous lifestyles.
American developers who were Jewish were well aware of these things when they constructed Las Vegas. Why on earth do you think it's in the middle of the Desert? No floods, no landslides, no earthquakes, etc can really occur there...
Oh hey, I'm going off on a rant of my own... Anyway, just some thoughts.
But one thing is for sure. No matter who hit the buildings in NYC and DC, it was done with airplanes, and only airplanes. The only demolition done was after the fact, by the NYC Fire Dept on WTC#7, at the permission of the leaseholder. This is a common practice, as it was also done weeks later with the other WTC builidings in the immediate area as well.
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Ok Folks,
Here's the deal. HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED: TAKE MY WORD FOR IT:
Two commercial jet planes flying at high speeds, full of jet fuel, flown by foreign hijackers hit the two supertall structures, both at very high points in the buildings. One of them a bit higher than the other, which allowed more time before it collapsed. The first plane hit the upper floors between the 93rd and 100th I believe, which gave it plenty of time before total structural failure occurred. If the fire department of NYC had a better evac plan, maybe more people could have survived, who knows. The second plane hit faster and lower on the facade and burned hotter. It fell first because of this reason. It hit between floors 78-83 I believe.
Look people, there didn't need to be detonators, or explosives or any kind of inside work done to bring down #7, it was going to fall on it's own in a matter of days. Larry Silverstein (the leaseholder) OK'd the fire department to cut two or three core steel support beams to speed the process up. The building had already been evacuated and cleared of danger. It had to be done for the safety of other buildings in the immediate vicinity.
The Pentagon was hit by a plane flown by a hijacker who fooled them all. He had the poorest pilot skills, (or so they thought). He actually just couldn't get the landing process down correctly. His flight control was fine. He didn't need to learn how to land, as his intention was to die anyway. I happened to be in Washington DC at the time of this event and saw the plane fly over from a distance. Lot's of people heard and saw it, just like me, and we all saw a commercial aircraft.
If you watch these conspiracy documentaries enough, you can detect their own biases. "Indestructible steel core" for instance is a poor attempt at describing the relatively LIGHT framework of the two towers. When a giant plane flys through any part of that core and shatters it, it weakens, and it is just a matter of time at that point. Time and pressure.
It is true that the Bush administration used this event to kick start the war on Iraq, but hey, oil isn't getting any cheaper for me, and more power to him. Take over the damn area, and start drilling and get us back down to less than a buck a gallon. Nothing wrong with that, eh? I bet I won't hear the conspiracy theorists bitching when that day comes.
Oh and yes, the plane that crashed in PA was an airplane, and it had people that died. I recall lots of people who lost thier loved ones talking on the phone before it happened. They also produced a movie called Flight 93.
It's all just real stuff. Arabs have been hijacking American planes with demands for a long time in this country. Nothing new here, other than they finally got clever and figured out how to hit us with our pants down.
Matt
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Are you a good person? Take the Bible challenge.
by jesusisgod inmost people consider themselves to be a good person.
i have asked several people just in passing and with family members, and they have confirmed this.
when asked, "do you consider yourself to be a good person?
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Lloyd Braun
To quote Ralph Wiggum...
"What's a battle?"
Lloyd